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Office | Governor |
Honorific | Governor - Abbr: Gov. |
Type | Recall |
Filing Deadline | July 16, 2021 - 12:00am Central |
Polls Open | September 14, 2021 - 09:00am Central |
Polls Close | September 14, 2021 - 10:00pm Central |
Term Start | September 15, 2021 - 12:00pm |
Term End | September 14, 2021 - 12:00pm |
Contributor | RP |
Last Modified | RBH October 22, 2021 07:20pm |
Data Sources | [Link]
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Over 50% of the voters voted “no” on the Recall Question. Accordingly, Governor Newsom was not recalled and the winner of this race did not take office.
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I:9775 | Natalie ( 107.9987 points)
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Mon, July 19, 2021 02:20:57 PM UTC0:00
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Caitlyn for Governor
Caitlyn for Governor
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Joker:9757 | BrentinCO ( 9683.0742 points)
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Mon, July 19, 2021 05:47:12 PM UTC0:00
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https://twitter.com/Politics1com/status/1417135147418226691?s=20
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Joker:9757 | BrentinCO ( 9683.0742 points)
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Mon, July 19, 2021 05:49:08 PM UTC0:00
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I imagine Elder will sue to get on the ballot, but as of now he's off.
I imagine Elder will sue to get on the ballot, but as of now he's off.
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D:1989 | RBH ( 5686.1743 points)
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Wed, July 21, 2021 02:38:49 AM UTC0:00
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after the random alphabet drawing, the top Democrat is Patrick Kilpatrick and the top Republican is Chauncey "Slim" KIllens. Kevin Kiley is the top Republican among the ones who have won an election
after the random alphabet drawing, the top Democrat is Patrick Kilpatrick and the top Republican is Chauncey "Slim" KIllens. Kevin Kiley is the top Republican among the ones who have won an election
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There were 135 candidates last time. What explains such a marked decline (to 41)?
I think perhaps it's a lot more intimidating to involve one's self in politics, as compared to just eighteen years ago.
There were 135 candidates last time. What explains such a marked decline (to 41)?
I think perhaps it's a lot more intimidating to involve one's self in politics, as compared to just eighteen years ago.
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I:9951 | E Pluribus Unum ( -228.6384 points)
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Wed, July 21, 2021 09:43:40 PM UTC0:00
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This one is less likely to actually work so nobody really cares about this race at all
This one is less likely to actually work so nobody really cares about this race at all
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Joker:9757 | BrentinCO ( 9683.0742 points)
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Wed, July 21, 2021 10:14:41 PM UTC0:00
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This one is less likely to actually work so nobody really cares about this race at all
Sorta agree. I think it was a foregone conclusion based on Gray Davis dismal approvals in 2003. Newsome is no where near that yet, infact most polls on the recall question favor NO on the recall. Compared to 2003 when the polls consistently favored YES on recall.
https://www.ourcampaigns.com/RaceDetail.html?RaceID=36166
E Pluribus Unum: This one is less likely to actually work so nobody really cares about this race at all
Sorta agree. I think it was a foregone conclusion based on Gray Davis dismal approvals in 2003. Newsome is no where near that yet, infact most polls on the recall question favor NO on the recall. Compared to 2003 when the polls consistently favored YES on recall.
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D:10973 | Patrick ( 6.5582 points)
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Thu, July 22, 2021 12:05:37 AM UTC0:00
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Not looking forward to this undeserved "vote of confidence" that Newsom is about to get.
Not looking forward to this undeserved "vote of confidence" that Newsom is about to get.
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D:1989 | RBH ( 5686.1743 points)
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Thu, July 22, 2021 01:22:41 AM UTC0:00
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There were 135 candidates last time. What explains such a marked decline (to 41)?
even if it's just 65 signatures, I suspect that putting up the effort for signatures plus a fee is a little more daunting right now compared to 2003 unless you have enough friends or you're willing to approach strangers with a clipboard right now.
Hikikomori Blitzkrieg!: There were 135 candidates last time. What explains such a marked decline (to 41)?
even if it's just 65 signatures, I suspect that putting up the effort for signatures plus a fee is a little more daunting right now compared to 2003 unless you have enough friends or you're willing to approach strangers with a clipboard right now.
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I:9951 | E Pluribus Unum ( -228.6384 points)
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Thu, July 22, 2021 01:39:16 AM UTC0:00
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Sorta agree. I think it was a foregone conclusion based on Gray Davis dismal approvals in 2003. Newsome is no where near that yet, infact most polls on the recall question favor NO on the recall. Compared to 2003 when the polls consistently favored YES on recall.
https://www.ourcampaigns.com/RaceDetail.html?RaceID=36166
Because Grey had an actual reason to be recalled which Republicans used to get people to vote against him and give the GOP a powergrab. Newsom's recall has less actual reasons people care about and is a lot more transparent in its fakeness
BrentinCO: Sorta agree. I think it was a foregone conclusion based on Gray Davis dismal approvals in 2003. Newsome is no where near that yet, infact most polls on the recall question favor NO on the recall. Compared to 2003 when the polls consistently favored YES on recall.
[Link]
Because Grey had an actual reason to be recalled which Republicans used to get people to vote against him and give the GOP a powergrab. Newsom's recall has less actual reasons people care about and is a lot more transparent in its fakeness
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https://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0geK.gVyfhg3TIALjhx.9w4;_ylu=Y29sbwNiZjEEcG9zAzEEdnRpZAMEc2VjA3Nj/RV=2/RE=1626945942/RO=10/RU=https%3a%2f%2fnews.yahoo.com%2fconservative-talk-show-host-larry-010700023.html/RK=2/RS=dXPGG0Qpj45NsdByxkcX4bwXm7U-
A judge has reinstated Larry Elders position on the ballot after being initially struck by the Secretary of State.
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A judge has reinstated Larry Elders position on the ballot after being initially struck by the Secretary of State.
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If Faulconer wasn't a terrible candidate, he'd have picked up some traction by now.
If Faulconer wasn't a terrible candidate, he'd have picked up some traction by now.
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R:250 | Mr. Politics ( 190.1725 points)
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Sat, July 24, 2021 11:13:15 PM UTC0:00
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This one is less likely to actually work so nobody really cares about this race at all
Sorta agree. I think it was a foregone conclusion based on Gray Davis dismal approvals in 2003. Newsome is no where near that yet, infact most polls on the recall question favor NO on the recall. Compared to 2003 when the polls consistently favored YES on recall.
https://www.ourcampaigns.com/RaceDetail.html?RaceID=36166
It was not a foregone conclusion on this site that Davis would be recalled back in 2003.
BrentinCO: <q 9951="">This one is less likely to actually work so nobody really cares about this race at all
Sorta agree. I think it was a foregone conclusion based on Gray Davis dismal approvals in 2003. Newsome is no where near that yet, infact most polls on the recall question favor NO on the recall. Compared to 2003 when the polls consistently favored YES on recall.
[Link]
It was not a foregone conclusion on this site that Davis would be recalled back in 2003.
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Joker:9757 | BrentinCO ( 9683.0742 points)
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Sun, July 25, 2021 12:03:16 AM UTC0:00
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One thing that happened in the 2003 recall in my opinion is that Schwarzenegger presented himself (and a few others) as competent alternatives to Gray Davis. Thus pushing more people to vote for the recall.
I don't think this race is over yet. Campaigns do matter.
Im curious to see if Elders breaks out as the campaign ramps up and if that impacts the numbers for Newsom's recall.
Elders is a proponent of abolishing the IRS. What if he runs on a platform of abolishing the California Personal Income Tax and/or Corporate Income Tax. I can see that as being popular and positioning him as a credible alternative to Newsom driving up recall numbers.
One thing that happened in the 2003 recall in my opinion is that Schwarzenegger presented himself (and a few others) as competent alternatives to Gray Davis. Thus pushing more people to vote for the recall.
I don't think this race is over yet. Campaigns do matter.
Im curious to see if Elders breaks out as the campaign ramps up and if that impacts the numbers for Newsom's recall.
Elders is a proponent of abolishing the IRS. What if he runs on a platform of abolishing the California Personal Income Tax and/or Corporate Income Tax. I can see that as being popular and positioning him as a credible alternative to Newsom driving up recall numbers.
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In 2003, Lt. Gov. Cruz Bustamante ran more to bring out Democrats (who'd presumably tend to vote NO in the Recall), rather than as a viable candidate against Schwarzenegger. It didn't work, but the final result was a bit closer than expected.
With effectively no Democrat on the ballot, will reduced Democratic turn-out possibly result in an unexpected outcome for Gruesome Newsom?
In 2003, Lt. Gov. Cruz Bustamante ran more to bring out Democrats (who'd presumably tend to vote NO in the Recall), rather than as a viable candidate against Schwarzenegger. It didn't work, but the final result was a bit closer than expected.
With effectively no Democrat on the ballot, will reduced Democratic turn-out possibly result in an unexpected outcome for Gruesome Newsom?
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This will come down to how happy people feel about current conditions in California.
If I were Newsom, I'd be worried.
This will come down to how happy people feel about current conditions in California.
If I were Newsom, I'd be worried.
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Joker:9757 | BrentinCO ( 9683.0742 points)
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Mon, August 2, 2021 11:27:10 PM UTC0:00
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San Diego Voters only
https://twitter.com/USA_Polling/status/1421628211063107590?s=20
San Diego Voters only
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Joker:9757 | BrentinCO ( 9683.0742 points)
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Mon, August 2, 2021 11:45:22 PM UTC0:00
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Trying to make sense of a poll that shows almost 50% of San Diego voters supporting the recall with 20% of those same voters supporting Paffrath.
But maybe there is something to being an influencer with 1.6M followers. If Paffrath ends up starting to poll this level of support in other statewide polls, this race could get much more interesting.
Pewdiepie for Prime Minister of Sweden!
Trying to make sense of a poll that shows almost 50% of San Diego voters supporting the recall with 20% of those same voters supporting Paffrath.
But maybe there is something to being an influencer with 1.6M followers. If Paffrath ends up starting to poll this level of support in other statewide polls, this race could get much more interesting.
Pewdiepie for Prime Minister of Sweden!
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D:1989 | RBH ( 5686.1743 points)
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Thu, August 5, 2021 12:14:11 AM UTC0:00
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Paffrath surging (because he's the only Democrat in the SurveyUSA poll)
Paffrath surging (because he's the only Democrat in the SurveyUSA poll)
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Joker:9757 | BrentinCO ( 9683.0742 points)
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Thu, August 5, 2021 12:31:20 AM UTC0:00
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Paffrath surging (because he's the only Democrat in the SurveyUSA poll)
Agreed. But I do think this poll is accurately registering growth in him as an option voters will cast a ballot for on election day. Other polls have shown similar.
RBH: Paffrath surging (because he's the only Democrat in the SurveyUSA poll)
Agreed. But I do think this poll is accurately registering growth in him as an option voters will cast a ballot for on election day. Other polls have shown similar.
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Joker:9757 | BrentinCO ( 9683.0742 points)
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Thu, August 5, 2021 12:36:57 AM UTC0:00
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I'm curious, do we know poll positions yet? is it different in every county? That seems like it will play a roll in how easy it is to find a candidate.
I'm curious, do we know poll positions yet? is it different in every county? That seems like it will play a roll in how easy it is to find a candidate.
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D:7 | CA Pol Junkie ( 5444.7002 points)
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Thu, August 5, 2021 12:59:36 AM UTC0:00
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I'm curious, do we know poll positions yet? is it different in every county? That seems like it will play a roll in how easy it is to find a candidate.
In ordinary elections at least, ballot position rotates by legislative district.
BrentinCO: I'm curious, do we know poll positions yet? is it different in every county? That seems like it will play a roll in how easy it is to find a candidate.
In ordinary elections at least, ballot position rotates by legislative district.
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BEER:10271 | WSNJ ( 478.4198 points)
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Thu, August 5, 2021 02:34:13 AM UTC0:00
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That’s confusing how does that work? I get how the structure would work by county but legislative district?
That’s confusing how does that work? I get how the structure would work by county but legislative district?
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D:10973 | Patrick ( 6.5582 points)
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Thu, August 5, 2021 05:55:21 AM UTC0:00
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Honestly Paffrath seems like a complete tool so maybe only a slight upgrade on Newsom let's do this
Honestly Paffrath seems like a complete tool so maybe only a slight upgrade on Newsom let's do this
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D:7 | CA Pol Junkie ( 5444.7002 points)
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Thu, August 5, 2021 03:26:31 PM UTC0:00
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Honestly Paffrath seems like a complete tool so maybe only a slight upgrade on Newsom let's do this
Paffrath is distilled bulls*** - even if you think Newsom is the same at least Newsom is competent. It's pretty slim pickings among the replacement candidates, but there are better choices than Paffrath.
Patrick: Honestly Paffrath seems like a complete tool so maybe only a slight upgrade on Newsom let's do this
Paffrath is distilled bulls*** - even if you think Newsom is the same at least Newsom is competent. It's pretty slim pickings among the replacement candidates, but there are better choices than Paffrath.
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