Our Campaigns - MA District 04 - D Primary Race

R:7501

Wed, September 2, 2020 09:00:55 PM UTC0:00

I would assume yes since the AP called it. Before I call races, I usually wait for the AP, one of the major networks or The NY Times.

I:9951

E Pluribus Unum ( -228.6384 points)

Wed, September 2, 2020 09:47:55 PM UTC0:00

Kyle:
I was being facetious. I simply believe that both ends of the political extremes have a lack of nuance when it comes to political philosophy. Instead, they posit "if person a doesn't agree with x position, they must believe y (the completely opposite position.)"

We see this with those who suggest that because Joe Biden doesn't support the Green New Deal or Medicare For All, there is NO MEANINGFUL DIFFERENCE between Trump and Biden on health care. Obviously, to any objective political observer, that is completely ridiculous.

We seen this born out with Auchincloss who, by any assessment, is center-left AT LEAST. And yet, those on the far-left seem to think Ted Cruz has won a house seat in MA-04.

You're biggest issue is referring to people like me as "Far-Left" when by no metric am I or a majority of the left "Far-Left" at all.

I:1038

WA Indy ( 1821.8373 points)

Thu, September 3, 2020 12:23:38 AM UTC0:00

Just out of curiosity, not an attack, what do you consider far left? And what do consider far left by American standards? Assuming they're different, they may not be for you.

I:9951

E Pluribus Unum ( -228.6384 points)

Thu, September 3, 2020 12:36:10 AM UTC0:00

WA Indy: Just out of curiosity, not an attack, what do you consider far left? And what do consider far left by American standards? Assuming they're different, they may not be for you.

People like Gloria La Riva, David Rolde, or Tankies (Term 4 Commies who LOVE USSR/China/DPRK). Since they do exist by being advocacy groups and run candidates they would be the Far-Left in the US. They are on the fringe and their issues go WAY BEYOND the Mainstream Left.

The issues that folks like Bernie and AOC are mainstream now, so the "far" label gets removed from their label and they are just The Left

D:1989

RBH ( 5686.1743 points)

Thu, September 3, 2020 07:27:36 PM UTC0:00

It seems like a lot of the candidates saying they're Democratic Socialists are probably closer to Social Democrats. But Social Democracy really isn't a political label that gets used much in the US, so..

Will be interesting to see which people in the DSA realm stick-to-it during a Biden presidency and which ones become more conventional with a Dem president.

I:9951

E Pluribus Unum ( -228.6384 points)

Thu, September 3, 2020 08:17:41 PM UTC0:00

They'll fight when need be and work with them when need be, the real far lefties are the ones who call AOC and Bernie sell outs for working with Dems when they can

D:1989

RBH ( 5686.1743 points)

Fri, September 4, 2020 12:32:56 AM UTC0:00

yeah, the types who think anything resembling success involved being co-opted might be annoyed at times over the next 4 years.

Wonder how long it'll take for any sort of foreign policy thing to become a prominent issue because (somehow) Covid kinda knocked foreign policy things down the ladder and it sorta seems like solidly left politics are more popular on domestic policy than foreign policy.

I:9951

E Pluribus Unum ( -228.6384 points)

Fri, September 4, 2020 01:46:12 AM UTC0:00

As a representative of Left Twitter it does get infuriating that folks are cancelling Jamaal Bowman for even daring to say he will work with a Biden administration

It depends on the FP issues. Broadly speaking a majority of US are Anti-War, they may not be in the specifically Left version of Anti-War or may not have specific stances on Isreal/Palestine but the Left has got to make their case on that

D:9362

An_62190 ( 650.8763 points)

Fri, September 4, 2020 06:30:48 AM UTC0:00

?s=20 unofficial results from franklin. auchincloss did quite well here