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I:9951E Pluribus Unum ( -228.64 points)April 18, 2024 04:50pm
Gotta say....this low key makes total sense...

A party of Psuedoscientific Hippies nominating a guy who is Anti-Vaxx
 
CPCC:6380Zeus the Moose ( 691.45 points)April 18, 2024 05:11pm
Oh yeah this is honestly the most true-to-original Michigan Natural Law presidential candidate ever since the national NLP collapsed, though I kind of doubt that the leadership of the current Michigan NLP has much of a connection to the old Yogic Flyers
 
D:1989RBH ( 5686.17 points)April 18, 2024 05:56pm
could use a Michigan Libertarian straw poll or something similar since they don't have an official nominee yet
 
D:1RP ( 5618.82 points)August 16, 2024 03:34pm
West disqualified from the ballot for improper paperwork.
 
Joker:9757BrentinCO ( 9683.07 points)October 22, 2024 12:30pm
Lose yourself...

 
R:250Mr. Politics ( 190.17 points)October 22, 2024 03:13pm
Imagine if 20+ or so years ago someone had said there will be a GOTV rally in Detroit led by a white rapper and a black former president.......
 
D:1989RBH ( 5686.17 points)October 22, 2024 03:57pm
there was sort of an awkward embrace 20 years ago after "Mosh" with Dems who liked the song/video and Dems who were like "hey wait, you heard the rest of this guy's songs"

Em's public image has changed a bit over those 20 years.
 
D:7CA Pol Junkie ( 5444.70 points)October 30, 2024 01:37pm
TargetSmart modeled partisanship of people who have already voted in Michigan is D 48 / R 42 / I 10. CNN/SSRS says that the vote among those who have voted is Harris 61, Trump 35, which implies that Harris is getting significant cross over support from Republicans and strong support from independents. The number of early voters here is about 40% of the 2020 total vote.
 
D:7CA Pol Junkie ( 5444.70 points)November 01, 2024 10:00am
If polling is to be believed (OK, not really but just for fun...) Harris is ahead 63-37 among those who have already voted in the Marist poll. TargetSmart modeled partisanship of those who have already voted is D 47 R 42, I 11. So really either TargetSmart and/or Marist is way off, but it is still likely that Harris is getting disproportional independent support and/or significant net cross-over from Republicans to get close to these results.
 
CPCC:6380Zeus the Moose ( 691.45 points)November 02, 2024 12:15pm
I'm not sure I'd call Tlaib's non-endorsement of Harris an explicit anti-endorsement, as I haven't seen anything that says she's been telling people to not vote for Harris.
 
I:9951E Pluribus Unum ( -228.64 points)November 02, 2024 12:19pm
Yeah that is a MASSIVE piece of misinfo.

Anti-Endorsements imply she is ok with Trump or the others winning. Which she is 100% NOT ok with.
 
WFP:11714BigZuck08 ( 1151.87 points)November 02, 2024 01:12pm
Zeus the Moose: I'm not sure I'd call Tlaib's non-endorsement of Harris an explicit anti-endorsement, as I haven't seen anything that says she's been telling people to not vote for Harris.

I marked it as that because when Lisa Murkowski said she wasn't supporting Trump someone marked that as an anti-endorsement of Trump. If I'm mistaken someone can feel free to delete it.
 
CPCC:6380Zeus the Moose ( 691.45 points)November 02, 2024 01:37pm
BigZuck08: I marked it as that because when Lisa Murkowski said she wasn't supporting Trump someone marked that as an anti-endorsement of Trump. If I'm mistaken someone can feel free to delete it.

I can see where you're coming from with that, though I think that's a bit of a different situation. Murkowski said that she explicitly wasn't supporting Trump, whereas Tlaib is just not explicitly endorsing Harris, and I suspect that when it comes down to actions in the voting booth, Tlaib will probably vote for Harris.

For some context on the anti-endorsement feature in general, it is one of the newer features on this site, and iirc was introduced to show that someone is working against a particular candidate (typically if both individuals involved are part of the same party). There was also a request that the feature not be overused.

I'm going to delete the anti-endorsement now, but I do appreciate you explaining why you decided to include it.
 
I:9951E Pluribus Unum ( -228.64 points)November 02, 2024 01:47pm
I always interpreted it being used in the context where a candidate basically says they hate 1 person SO MUCH that they are ok with the other winning. For the Murkowski Example; I think she is ok with Kamala Winning over Trump, whereas Tlaib is DEF not ok with Trump over Kamala. The accurate thing would be Anti-Endorsements for Trump, Kamala, and Kennedy; but thats overusing it. Like she is not explicitly trying to Hurt Kamala's chances cuz she kniws thats not gonna help Palestinians at all.

2022 French Prez Election for example; 3 Far Left Candidates never explicitly backed Macron, but made it very abundantly clear they opposed Le Pen. So the new feature was great for situations like that.
 
WFP:11714BigZuck08 ( 1151.87 points)November 02, 2024 02:24pm
Zeus the Moose: <q 11714="">I marked it as that because when Lisa Murkowski said she wasn't supporting Trump someone marked that as an anti-endorsement of Trump. If I'm mistaken someone can feel free to delete it.

I can see where you're coming from with that, though I think that's a bit of a different situation. Murkowski said that she explicitly wasn't supporting Trump, whereas Tlaib is just not explicitly endorsing Harris, and I suspect that when it comes down to actions in the voting booth, Tlaib will probably vote for Harris.

For some context on the anti-endorsement feature in general, it is one of the newer features on this site, and iirc was introduced to show that someone is working against a particular candidate (typically if both individuals involved are part of the same party). There was also a request that the feature not be overused.

I'm going to delete the anti-endorsement now, but I do appreciate you explaining why you decided to include it.
E Pluribus Unum: I always interpreted it being used in the context where a candidate basically says they hate 1 person SO MUCH that they are ok with the other winning. For the Murkowski Example; I think she is ok with Kamala Winning over Trump, whereas Tlaib is DEF not ok with Trump over Kamala. The accurate thing would be Anti-Endorsements for Trump, Kamala, and Kennedy; but thats overusing it. Like she is not explicitly trying to Hurt Kamala's chances cuz she kniws thats not gonna help Palestinians at all.

2022 French Prez Election for example; 3 Far Left Candidates never explicitly backed Macron, but made it very abundantly clear they opposed Le Pen. So the new feature was great for situations like that.

Oh ok. Thank you both for the clarification.
 
R:11448Maryland Republican93 ( 2178.00 points)November 02, 2024 08:21pm
Can someone explain why Tlaib is marked down as an anti-endorsement for Trump? In what universe would she be expected to endorse Trump? Should we mark every Democrat officeholder as anti-Trump and every Republican officeholder as anti-Harris?

Isn’t this the slippery slope that was warned about. This anti endorsement seems ridiculous.
 
I:9951E Pluribus Unum ( -228.64 points)November 03, 2024 12:03am
I just moved it there so someone would notice it and delete the anti endorsement here
 
REC:9399Juan Croniqueur ( -31.83 points)November 03, 2024 02:22am
I get why Arab-American voters would go for Stein or stay home, but really question why they would go for Donald "$100,000,000 from Miriam Adelson to annex the West Bank" Trump.
 
CPCC:6380Zeus the Moose ( 691.45 points)November 03, 2024 08:22am
Maryland Republican93: Can someone explain why Tlaib is marked down as an anti-endorsement for Trump? In what universe would she be expected to endorse Trump? Should we mark every Democrat officeholder as anti-Trump and every Republican officeholder as anti-Harris?

Isn’t this the slippery slope that was warned about. This anti endorsement seems ridiculous.

I tried deleting the anti-endorsement outright (which was previously on Harris), but it looks like I can't do that, so we're kind of stuck with it until someone with the access to delete it does so.

Maybe we should make sure it's absolutely clear that Tlaib doesn't want Joseph Kishore to win though...
 
D:7CA Pol Junkie ( 5444.70 points)November 03, 2024 07:05pm
 
WFP:11714BigZuck08 ( 1151.87 points)November 07, 2024 09:53am