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| Joker:9757 | BrentinCO ( 7748.48 points) | June 11, 2021 12:33pm |
@Bojicat (or anyone else). How do you handicap this race?
Most races have been a matchup between "moderates" and conservatives. If Rouhani was a "moderate" who carries that banner in 2021?
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I have no idea why people call him "moderate", when he is not even a moderate President.
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| Joker:9757 | BrentinCO ( 7748.48 points) | June 11, 2021 01:48pm |
I agree, not really a moderate, but moderate by Iran standards.
Looks to me that list of candidates was curated to insure a win by Raisi and eliminate any true reform candidates.
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| I:9626 | Bojicat ( 912.46 points) | June 11, 2021 03:21pm |
Raisi owns it. He's a Principlist (a practitioner of the darkest of the dark arts in theocracy-land), a leader of the Combatant Clergy Association (the name alone should spell him out for you) and the absolute darling of the Supreme Leadership.
In maybe a happier moment in Iran's post-Khomeini history, Rouhani sailed past the 2017 presidential competition led by none other than Raisi, who rallied behind him every hardliner from the Caspian shore to Fars Province.
This time around, the Guardian Council does not make the same mistake - only two moderates were allowed through; free-marketeer Hemmati and the 'youth-focused' ex Isfahan governor Mehralizadeh. Neither of them have a chance in Jahannam.
The Theocracy Strikes Back. Iran's in for it.
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| I:6738 | IndyGeorgia ( 4113.60 points) | June 17, 2021 09:24am |
Did these three candidates actually "drop out" (i.e. votes cast for them will not be counted) or was this more of a "dropping out in spirit"?
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| I:9626 | Bojicat ( 912.46 points) | June 17, 2021 09:37am |
There may be votes for them (we'll see), and we'll certainly display these votes if they come. As far as the press/the record is concerned, they have 'dropped out'. They all gave their resignation letters to the Interior Ministry, and the Ministry officially 'struck them off' as candidates. Unsure whether they will remain on whatever Iran uses as 'ballots'. Smells like this was set up from the start.
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| I:9626 | Bojicat ( 912.46 points) | June 17, 2021 10:26am |
IndyG, the Mehr News Agency put out this news a moment ago after Zakani's drop out was accepted by the Interior Ministry today [Link] It states that the Interior Ministry now list "the names of the candidates for the 13th presidential election as follows:
1- Mr. Mohsen Rezaei Mir Ghaed
2- Mr. Seyed Ebrahim Raeisi
3- Mr. Seyed Amir Hossein Ghazizadeh Hashemi
4- Mr. Abdolnasser Hemmati
The Interior Ministry's site says the same thing but full access to it is "forbidden from my Geographic IP address" [Link] Can you get access? This may impede our adding up totals in real time.
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| I:6738 | IndyGeorgia ( 4113.60 points) | June 17, 2021 10:46am |
I don't have access. Guess we will just have to wait until they make the results..
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| I:9626 | Bojicat ( 912.46 points) | June 18, 2021 10:10am |
Empty voting stations throughout Iran - lasting for hours. Voter participation rates have been awful, and are heading into Algeria election-type levels [Link] The regime has noticed and just extended voting hours to 9pm (!) Iran Standard Time [Link]
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| I:6738 | IndyGeorgia ( 4113.60 points) | June 18, 2021 10:35am |
So they're not worried about the result, but just wanting to make sure the turnout is decent enough to avoid embarrassment?
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| I:9626 | Bojicat ( 912.46 points) | June 18, 2021 02:03pm |
IndyG, avoiding embarrassment seems to the case, and more conspicuous than anyone expected.
By about 8:00pm Tehran time, after voter participation numbers were revealed to be shockingly low, Iran's constitutional council extended voting hours to 10 pm [Link] Then, still not satisfied, it was extended to midnight [Link] Maybe they could draw it out into Sunday. Voting is just so much fun in Iran.
Best option for next time: decree compulsory(-or-else) voting as in Turkmenistan.
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| I:9626 | Bojicat ( 912.46 points) | June 18, 2021 03:05pm |
Now 2 am. [Link]
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| I:6738 | IndyGeorgia ( 4113.60 points) | June 18, 2021 03:11pm |
Go vote, and then hit the clubs for.... never mind.
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| I:9626 | Bojicat ( 912.46 points) | June 18, 2021 06:36pm |
What Iran's future President (and I could guarantee, its new Supreme leader after Khamenei) has wrought:
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| Joker:9757 | BrentinCO ( 7748.48 points) | June 19, 2021 10:43am |
I guess by keeping the polls open, Iran avoided the embarrassment of Raisi getting fewer votes losing the Presidential election with 38% than winning the Presidential election with 72%.
...but not my much.
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| I:6738 | IndyGeorgia ( 4113.60 points) | June 19, 2021 11:42am |
Oh wow, glad you caught that detail.
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