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Sam Ronan is running and Jamie Harrison is speculated to run | |||
Whomever Sam Ronan is... | ||||
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KeystoneProgressive: It's funny how the guy who ended up winning here lost a primary bid for Maryland Governor 5 years later, while the other guy who lost is now the AG of Minnesota and might possibly become governor in the future, assuming Flanagan or somebody else isn't eyeing it as well (in a head-to-head with Ellison vs. Flanagan race, I will be supporting Ellison.)
I just remembered that Minnesota has no term limits for the governorship, so it also depends on whether or not Governor Walz wants another term. | ||||
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The Republican Party is now at the point where it has marginalized its former leaders in the Bush era, and is stronger for it. The same needs to be done of the Clinton-era globalists and various identity politic-driven activist class who have completely lost all credibility with the working class. | |||
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He was not only one of the few calling out about how the Democratic Party needed to adapt to fix itself in the Trump Era. Both in a policy and rhetoric sense being a progressive populist. But is also smart as **** and can see the long game before anyone else. He was the ONE Democratic Politician who was openly telling the Democrats to prepare for Trump to be the nominee and shift the strategy to reflect that, and was LAUGHED AT. Even his AG run was a big brain plan that I was too foolish to see. And he was 100% RIGHT If Dems wanna change tune, they should really consider having Keith lead the Ticket | |||
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Jason: The party infrastructure is corrupted and will never solve its own problems. The Democrats basically need their own version of Donald Trump who will speak uncomfortable truths about the party and often in politically incorrect ways.
The Republican Party is now at the point where it has marginalized its former leaders in the Bush era, and is stronger for it. The same needs to be done of the Clinton-era globalists and various identity politic-driven activist class who have completely lost all credibility with the working class. The reason why Bernie would have won is the EXACT reason why he was doomed to fail the Dem Primaries. Dems don't need "Their Own Trump" Per Se (Cuz depending on ur definition, they might have already had a couple people with that mantle), but rather they need a figure that can actually address the needs of the people. A POPULIST of some kind. But Dems are too loyal to Liberalism, which will NEVER address the needs of the people. Trump and his Fascist BS won't either, BUT people THINK it will, cuz Like every Fascist movement before, They can cry about a problem all day long. Even to the point where it sounds like they are coming at it from a "Left Wing Angle" but it will not actually address the concerns. But they will only learn that too late | |||
Or perhaps somebody like John Fetterman -- without all the Israel simping. Or maybe Keith Ellison? But what worries me about Ellison is that he appears to be an underperformer. Just look at his previous AG elections. I think Ellison would be a better party chair more than anything, and the Dems should've picked him in '17. But protecting neoliberal interests was more important I guess. Wherever the Democrats future is it should be towards populism and progressivism, as we have recruited more corporate candidates (Hillary and Kamala) only for them to fail (2020 was the exception, not the rule. With no COVID I think Trump would've won.). I have heard people say that we should shed our progressive wing and continue to move right, which is the exact opposite of what we should do. The problem is that progressives were not excited enough for Kamala to go out and vote, as turnout and the number of votes Kamala got went down. Trump won the POPULAR VOTE, which is huge, given that Republicans haven't won it since 2004. If the Dems actually go with this I'd probably migrate to the Greens or PSL. Funny enough there was little pandering to the far-left if anything we were pandering to the right. Throwing around a Dick Cheney endorsement is NEVER a good idea especially in a state like Michigan (helps to explain why Trump won Dearborn by 7). We placed our bets on pandering to Republicans and it didn't work. Heck, a new poll came out that said moderate Republicans voted for Trump by like 74-22. [Link] Overall, I hope this is a lesson for the Democrats, that they can't abandon progressivism, rather they need to excite progressives and the working-class. Recruiting corporate candidates didn't work in 2016, worked in 2020 really only due to COVID, and it didn't work in 2024, so it's clear we need to at least try a different strategy. | ||||
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If they did; Keith would be DNC Chair Right now, People like Gotthemeir would have been run out of the party, And Bernie would be on the cusp of Term 2. 2/25/17 is the day Democrats Died; the day DemocratS ACVTIVELY chose against the guy who literally wanted to take the Democrats in a New Direction and instead chose Same Old Same Old I been at this for 6 years and this **** is exactly what people said back then too "Hillary pandered too Far-Left we gotta run to the center" because thats what the media is PAID to do. To look at Kamala running one of the moat openly Conservative Friendly campaigns and saying "TOO FAR LEFT" because anything less than pure unadulterated Capitalism is too Leftward for them | |||
E Pluribus Unum: Problem is the Dems won't.
If they did; Keith would be DNC Chair Right now, People like Gotthemeir would have been run out of the party, And Bernie would be on the cusp of Term 2. 2/25/17 is the day Democrats Died; the day DemocratS ACVTIVELY chose against the guy who literally wanted to take the Democrats in a New Direction and instead chose Same Old Same Old I been at this for 6 years and this **** is exactly what people said back then too "Hillary pandered too Far-Left we gotta run to the center" because thats what the media is PAID to do. To look at Kamala running one of the moat openly Conservative Friendly campaigns and saying "TOO FAR LEFT" because anything less than pure unadulterated Capitalism is too Leftward for them Oh I agree with you. I absolutely don't think the Dems would do this, as actual leftist ideology is against media and corporate interests. But hey, a man can hope and dream. If the Democratic leadership wants to be in the minority by not adopting progressive and populist rhetoric while the MAGAs pretend to be populist, that's on them. | ||||
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They won't deal with any of the repercussions of what happens. The poor and disadvantaged will | |||
E Pluribus Unum: I wish it was on them.
They won't deal with any of the repercussions of what happens. The poor and disadvantaged will To clarify, I was saying it was on them in a way that it was their fault for the loss, not that they will feel the worst of any of the policy-related repercussions. Unfortunately, many people won't realize that because the narrative will be "Dems pandered too far-left they gotta go to the center"... | ||||