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I:6738IndyGeorgia ( 4590.47 points)August 10, 2021 03:43pm
Bojicat, where are you getting these new party names?

This article from four days ago in the Helsinki Times describes the parties as the Finns Party, the National Coalition Party, the Centre Party, and Movement Now. [Link]

I don't think the Finns Party decided to be a self-hating Gen Z and refer to themself as "basic".
 
I:9626Bojicat ( 947.07 points)August 10, 2021 05:26pm
Thanks, IndyG. These are the names given in the historical record, and by the parties themselves (check the name in the Website link above, for example). The data sometimes presented in the English/American Wikipedia (including their odd preferred use of the British spelling of Center) is very often incorrect or incomplete. In this case, better direction comes from the Finnish version of Wikipedia (fi.wikipedia), Finnish publications and the party websites themselves. Depending on the American/British writers of wikipedia to correctly interpret Finnish politics would be just as (un)reliable as depending on the words of Finnish writers describing American politics and political parties. I don't know about the Helsinki Times, but each party you mention is known in Finland as the names chosen (the National Coalition is now simply called the 'Coalition'. You will also see that in election commission records these days). 'Business Now' is the actual translation of Liike Nyt, and this is the preferred name on their site [Link] even shown as such on the article link heralding the establishment of the party from the English Wikipedia, believe it or not [Link] (not sure how they came up with 'Movement Now').

I always say, Wikipedia is not to be trusted for the most accurate info. Our Campaigns is the BEST source (especially if it comes from its superstar, IndyG).
 
I:6738IndyGeorgia ( 4590.47 points)August 10, 2021 06:50pm
From 2011:
The Finnish News Agency STT first reported that, in English, the party is now to be called "The Finns." The decision was taken during a party board meeting Sunday, at the initiative of chairman Timo Soini.

The Finns have had no official English name before, but have variously been called the "True Finns" or "Basic Finns."
[Link]
 
I:6738IndyGeorgia ( 4590.47 points)August 10, 2021 07:17pm
Additionally, YLE (the Finnish national broadcasting company) writes about Movement Now in its English articles: [Link]

I understand that the literal translation goes to "Business Now", but I think it would be unwise to forego the common parlance of particular party names (even those expressly stated by those parties) for the sake of a particular literal translation (particular only because I do not believe we have a native Finnish speaker among us). That hinders the ability of users to accurately digest information. Such rationale is why when a political party is referred to in English media by a non-English name (think Chama Cha Mapinduzi in Tanzania), we use the non-English name.

Using these political party pages has been a good way to lay out any alternate names as well as names in foreign languages.
 
I:9626Bojicat ( 947.07 points)August 10, 2021 07:47pm
Alright, I'll revert them back. Thanks.
 
I:6738IndyGeorgia ( 4590.47 points)August 10, 2021 07:57pm
It's all a balancing act, and I appreciate you adding/correcting information on such a variety of pages to provide more details for readers. Tag-teaming on overseas pages is a lot of fun, and creates better work at the end of the day.