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 I:9951 | E Pluribus Unum ( -228.6384 points)
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Thu, July 22, 2021 01:39:16 AM UTC0:00
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Sorta agree. I think it was a foregone conclusion based on Gray Davis dismal approvals in 2003. Newsome is no where near that yet, infact most polls on the recall question favor NO on the recall. Compared to 2003 when the polls consistently favored YES on recall.
https://www.ourcampaigns.com/RaceDetail.html?RaceID=36166
Because Grey had an actual reason to be recalled which Republicans used to get people to vote against him and give the GOP a powergrab. Newsom's recall has less actual reasons people care about and is a lot more transparent in its fakeness
BrentinCO: Sorta agree. I think it was a foregone conclusion based on Gray Davis dismal approvals in 2003. Newsome is no where near that yet, infact most polls on the recall question favor NO on the recall. Compared to 2003 when the polls consistently favored YES on recall.
[Link]
Because Grey had an actual reason to be recalled which Republicans used to get people to vote against him and give the GOP a powergrab. Newsom's recall has less actual reasons people care about and is a lot more transparent in its fakeness
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https://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0geK.gVyfhg3TIALjhx.9w4;_ylu=Y29sbwNiZjEEcG9zAzEEdnRpZAMEc2VjA3Nj/RV=2/RE=1626945942/RO=10/RU=https%3a%2f%2fnews.yahoo.com%2fconservative-talk-show-host-larry-010700023.html/RK=2/RS=dXPGG0Qpj45NsdByxkcX4bwXm7U-
A judge has reinstated Larry Elders position on the ballot after being initially struck by the Secretary of State.
[Link]
A judge has reinstated Larry Elders position on the ballot after being initially struck by the Secretary of State.
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If Faulconer wasn't a terrible candidate, he'd have picked up some traction by now.
If Faulconer wasn't a terrible candidate, he'd have picked up some traction by now.
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| R:250 | Mr. Politics ( 190.1725 points)
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Sat, July 24, 2021 11:13:15 PM UTC0:00
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This one is less likely to actually work so nobody really cares about this race at all
Sorta agree. I think it was a foregone conclusion based on Gray Davis dismal approvals in 2003. Newsome is no where near that yet, infact most polls on the recall question favor NO on the recall. Compared to 2003 when the polls consistently favored YES on recall.
https://www.ourcampaigns.com/RaceDetail.html?RaceID=36166
It was not a foregone conclusion on this site that Davis would be recalled back in 2003.
BrentinCO: <q 9951="">This one is less likely to actually work so nobody really cares about this race at all
Sorta agree. I think it was a foregone conclusion based on Gray Davis dismal approvals in 2003. Newsome is no where near that yet, infact most polls on the recall question favor NO on the recall. Compared to 2003 when the polls consistently favored YES on recall.
[Link]
It was not a foregone conclusion on this site that Davis would be recalled back in 2003.
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 Joker:9757 | BrentinCO ( 9683.0742 points)
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Sun, July 25, 2021 12:03:16 AM UTC0:00
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One thing that happened in the 2003 recall in my opinion is that Schwarzenegger presented himself (and a few others) as competent alternatives to Gray Davis. Thus pushing more people to vote for the recall.
I don't think this race is over yet. Campaigns do matter.
Im curious to see if Elders breaks out as the campaign ramps up and if that impacts the numbers for Newsom's recall.
Elders is a proponent of abolishing the IRS. What if he runs on a platform of abolishing the California Personal Income Tax and/or Corporate Income Tax. I can see that as being popular and positioning him as a credible alternative to Newsom driving up recall numbers.
One thing that happened in the 2003 recall in my opinion is that Schwarzenegger presented himself (and a few others) as competent alternatives to Gray Davis. Thus pushing more people to vote for the recall.
I don't think this race is over yet. Campaigns do matter.
Im curious to see if Elders breaks out as the campaign ramps up and if that impacts the numbers for Newsom's recall.
Elders is a proponent of abolishing the IRS. What if he runs on a platform of abolishing the California Personal Income Tax and/or Corporate Income Tax. I can see that as being popular and positioning him as a credible alternative to Newsom driving up recall numbers.
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In 2003, Lt. Gov. Cruz Bustamante ran more to bring out Democrats (who'd presumably tend to vote NO in the Recall), rather than as a viable candidate against Schwarzenegger. It didn't work, but the final result was a bit closer than expected.
With effectively no Democrat on the ballot, will reduced Democratic turn-out possibly result in an unexpected outcome for Gruesome Newsom?
In 2003, Lt. Gov. Cruz Bustamante ran more to bring out Democrats (who'd presumably tend to vote NO in the Recall), rather than as a viable candidate against Schwarzenegger. It didn't work, but the final result was a bit closer than expected.
With effectively no Democrat on the ballot, will reduced Democratic turn-out possibly result in an unexpected outcome for Gruesome Newsom?
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This will come down to how happy people feel about current conditions in California.
If I were Newsom, I'd be worried.
This will come down to how happy people feel about current conditions in California.
If I were Newsom, I'd be worried.
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| Joker:9757 | BrentinCO ( 9683.0742 points)
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Mon, August 2, 2021 11:27:10 PM UTC0:00
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San Diego Voters only
https://twitter.com/USA_Polling/status/1421628211063107590?s=20
San Diego Voters only
?s=20
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| Joker:9757 | BrentinCO ( 9683.0742 points)
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Mon, August 2, 2021 11:45:22 PM UTC0:00
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Trying to make sense of a poll that shows almost 50% of San Diego voters supporting the recall with 20% of those same voters supporting Paffrath.
But maybe there is something to being an influencer with 1.6M followers. If Paffrath ends up starting to poll this level of support in other statewide polls, this race could get much more interesting.
Pewdiepie for Prime Minister of Sweden!
Trying to make sense of a poll that shows almost 50% of San Diego voters supporting the recall with 20% of those same voters supporting Paffrath.
But maybe there is something to being an influencer with 1.6M followers. If Paffrath ends up starting to poll this level of support in other statewide polls, this race could get much more interesting.
Pewdiepie for Prime Minister of Sweden!
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| D:1989 | RBH ( 5686.1743 points)
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Thu, August 5, 2021 12:14:11 AM UTC0:00
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Paffrath surging (because he's the only Democrat in the SurveyUSA poll)
Paffrath surging (because he's the only Democrat in the SurveyUSA poll)
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| Joker:9757 | BrentinCO ( 9683.0742 points)
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Thu, August 5, 2021 12:31:20 AM UTC0:00
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Paffrath surging (because he's the only Democrat in the SurveyUSA poll)
Agreed. But I do think this poll is accurately registering growth in him as an option voters will cast a ballot for on election day. Other polls have shown similar.
RBH: Paffrath surging (because he's the only Democrat in the SurveyUSA poll)
Agreed. But I do think this poll is accurately registering growth in him as an option voters will cast a ballot for on election day. Other polls have shown similar.
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| Joker:9757 | BrentinCO ( 9683.0742 points)
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Thu, August 5, 2021 12:36:57 AM UTC0:00
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I'm curious, do we know poll positions yet? is it different in every county? That seems like it will play a roll in how easy it is to find a candidate.
I'm curious, do we know poll positions yet? is it different in every county? That seems like it will play a roll in how easy it is to find a candidate.
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| D:7 | CA Pol Junkie ( 5444.7002 points)
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Thu, August 5, 2021 12:59:36 AM UTC0:00
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I'm curious, do we know poll positions yet? is it different in every county? That seems like it will play a roll in how easy it is to find a candidate.
In ordinary elections at least, ballot position rotates by legislative district.
BrentinCO: I'm curious, do we know poll positions yet? is it different in every county? That seems like it will play a roll in how easy it is to find a candidate.
In ordinary elections at least, ballot position rotates by legislative district.
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| BEER:10271 | WSNJ ( 478.4198 points)
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Thu, August 5, 2021 02:34:13 AM UTC0:00
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That’s confusing how does that work? I get how the structure would work by county but legislative district?
That’s confusing how does that work? I get how the structure would work by county but legislative district?
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| D:10973 | Patrick ( 6.5582 points)
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Thu, August 5, 2021 05:55:21 AM UTC0:00
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Honestly Paffrath seems like a complete tool so maybe only a slight upgrade on Newsom let's do this
Honestly Paffrath seems like a complete tool so maybe only a slight upgrade on Newsom let's do this
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| D:7 | CA Pol Junkie ( 5444.7002 points)
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Thu, August 5, 2021 03:26:31 PM UTC0:00
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Honestly Paffrath seems like a complete tool so maybe only a slight upgrade on Newsom let's do this
Paffrath is distilled bulls*** - even if you think Newsom is the same at least Newsom is competent. It's pretty slim pickings among the replacement candidates, but there are better choices than Paffrath.
Patrick: Honestly Paffrath seems like a complete tool so maybe only a slight upgrade on Newsom let's do this
Paffrath is distilled bulls*** - even if you think Newsom is the same at least Newsom is competent. It's pretty slim pickings among the replacement candidates, but there are better choices than Paffrath.
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| D:6086 | Jason (13430.6523 points)
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Thu, August 5, 2021 04:22:57 PM UTC0:00
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Longing for the days when we had elder statesmen like Larry Flynt in the mix.
Longing for the days when we had elder statesmen like Larry Flynt in the mix.
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| R:7114 | Kyle ( 706.9630 points)
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Thu, August 5, 2021 04:24:23 PM UTC0:00
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He would have gotten a lot of pushback for it, but Villaraigosa should have ran.
He would have gotten a lot of pushback for it, but Villaraigosa should have ran.
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| BEER:10271 | WSNJ ( 478.4198 points)
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Thu, August 5, 2021 04:26:21 PM UTC0:00
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Write in Kanye!
Write in Kanye!
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These race will be close or not
Thanks for clearing that up.
Chloe the dog: These race will be close or not
Thanks for clearing that up.
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| I:6738 | IndyGeorgia ( 4590.4668 points)
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Sun, August 8, 2021 04:13:25 AM UTC0:00
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LOS ANGELES (AP) — The California Republican Party voted overwhelmingly Saturday not to endorse any candidate in the looming recall election that could remove Democratic Gov. Gavin Newsom from office, sidestepping a potentially nasty fight over a GOP favorite that threatened to divide Republicans and depress turnout in the nationally watched race.
The lopsided vote to skip an endorsement — supported by about 90% of delegates attending at a virtual party meeting -- reflected concerns that an internal feud among candidates and their supporters would cleave party ranks and sour Republicans who wouldn’t bother to vote if their candidate of choice was snubbed. https://www.yahoo.com/news/california-gop-nixes-endorsement-fight-191614087.html
LOS ANGELES (AP) — The California Republican Party voted overwhelmingly Saturday not to endorse any candidate in the looming recall election that could remove Democratic Gov. Gavin Newsom from office, sidestepping a potentially nasty fight over a GOP favorite that threatened to divide Republicans and depress turnout in the nationally watched race.
The lopsided vote to skip an endorsement — supported by about 90% of delegates attending at a virtual party meeting -- reflected concerns that an internal feud among candidates and their supporters would cleave party ranks and sour Republicans who wouldn’t bother to vote if their candidate of choice was snubbed. [Link]
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| D:7 | CA Pol Junkie ( 5444.7002 points)
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Sun, August 8, 2021 04:57:14 AM UTC0:00
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A split Republican Party will still very likely have one of its candidates come out on top in the replacement vote, so there is no reason for them to try to narrow the field.
A split Republican Party will still very likely have one of its candidates come out on top in the replacement vote, so there is no reason for them to try to narrow the field.
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| D:10973 | Patrick ( 6.5582 points)
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Mon, August 9, 2021 12:59:31 AM UTC0:00
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Also they have so many good candidates running it's hard to pick just one
Also they have so many good candidates running it's hard to pick just one
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I strongly suspect Larry Elder will be Governor of California in a few weeks.
Which seems frankly surreal.
I strongly suspect Larry Elder will be Governor of California in a few weeks.
Which seems frankly surreal.
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| Joker:9757 | BrentinCO ( 9683.0742 points)
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Mon, August 9, 2021 05:47:24 PM UTC0:00
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California will greatly benefit from Elder's proposed tax reforms. And enough Democratic and traditionally Democratic unaffiliated voters are beginning to recognize this. Another reason why this recall will succeed.
California will greatly benefit from Elder's proposed tax reforms. And enough Democratic and traditionally Democratic unaffiliated voters are beginning to recognize this. Another reason why this recall will succeed.
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