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I:9951E Pluribus Unum ( -405.4800 points)
Mon, November 12, 2018 04:55:52 AM UTC0:00
OJEDA IS RUNNING FOR PREZ

 
D:1989RBH ( 5260.3276 points)
Mon, November 12, 2018 06:26:40 AM UTC0:00
how many DNC delegates can you get from protest votes in West Virginia and Kentucky?

 
D:1RP ( 5508.0200 points)
Mon, November 12, 2018 02:45:29 PM UTC0:00
If he can't even come close to winning a congressional district in his own state...

 
I:9951E Pluribus Unum ( -405.4800 points)
Mon, November 12, 2018 04:07:57 PM UTC0:00
He got 43.59% in a R+23. And he did so by using Left-Wing Populism and calling out the Washington Insiders in both parties. He'll be a great candidate.

 
D:1989RBH ( 5260.3276 points)
Mon, November 12, 2018 06:16:45 PM UTC0:00
It seems like Manchin ran ahead of Ojeda too.

So, guy who is in a state Senate who voted Trump in 2016 is a non-starter here.

 
D:8255My Congressman is a Weiner ( -19.7986 points)
Mon, November 12, 2018 06:35:51 PM UTC0:00
I’m not saying he should be the nominee, but what he is saying could be very applicable nationally to attract Trump voters, but isn’t in conflict with other priorities.

 
D:9642EastTexasDem ( 1194.2181 points)
Mon, November 12, 2018 06:46:29 PM UTC0:00
I wonder how Ojeda will justify his voting for Trump to black and Hispanic primary voters? I tried to cut him some slack because he seemed like he was a good fit for that district, but even they rejected him by double digits. I bet he won't make it much further than Jim Webb.

 
D:1RP ( 5508.0200 points)
Mon, November 12, 2018 07:30:17 PM UTC0:00
Talley Sergent in WV-2 came closer to winning.

 
I:9951E Pluribus Unum ( -405.4800 points)
Mon, November 12, 2018 07:39:52 PM UTC0:00
He justifies it because Trump said he'd help the Working Class American. And has expressed disappointment in Trump since then

 
D:1RP ( 5508.0200 points)
x2
Mon, November 12, 2018 08:11:26 PM UTC0:00
Not sure we need a President that is that easily duped.

 
D:10124BLUEDOGS ( 68.1367 points)
Mon, November 12, 2018 08:33:05 PM UTC0:00
Who's likely Dem front-runner ?

 
I:9951E Pluribus Unum ( -405.4800 points)
Mon, November 12, 2018 09:00:45 PM UTC0:00
Ohh, blame the person for listening to a presidential candidate that said they'll help the working as opposed to the establishments favorite politician

 
I:1038WA Indy ( 1772.5920 points)
x3
Mon, November 12, 2018 09:10:38 PM UTC0:00
E Pluribus Unum: Ohh, blame the person for listening to a presidential candidate that said they'll help the working as opposed to the establishments favorite politician

I think the point is he fell for that from a guy who never lifted a finger to help any working person and went out of his way to defraud a good many of them. But it's America, we're easily duped apparently.

 
I:9951E Pluribus Unum ( -405.4800 points)
Mon, November 12, 2018 09:35:43 PM UTC0:00
Well he's expressed disappointment in Trump now, and Either Way Ojeda is still a great populist candidate that'll be a force to be reckoned with.

 
I:1038WA Indy ( 1772.5920 points)
Mon, November 12, 2018 09:42:45 PM UTC0:00
Except that he's just lost a congressional seat, so he's not much of a force even in WV.

 
D:1989RBH ( 5260.3276 points)
Tue, November 13, 2018 01:04:12 AM UTC0:00
"Fun" part of the WV03 result is the likelihood that Ojeda did better in Carol Miller's district than in his own Senate District. Ojeda won around 38% in his home county. Two years after winning that county on his way to the State Senate.

At least Sherrod Brown, Brian Schweitzer, or Jon Tester would be reasonably credible candidates if we're going to a checklist of being able to beat the Presidential vote percentage.

Ojeda's thing seems like somebody who either got some lousy advice or somebody who knows that just running for re-election for the WV State Senate isn't gonna be particularly glamorous. Especially since there'll be a risk of him losing re-election in 2020 due to the top of the ticket.

 
I:1038WA Indy ( 1772.5920 points)
Tue, November 13, 2018 05:03:48 AM UTC0:00
E Pluribus Unum: He got 43.59% in a R+23, the last Democrat that ran in that district got 23.98%. He's also gotten a lot of notoriety as a popular state senator who helped with the teachers strike. And got free advertisement among new Media Progressives. He's definitely a force to be reckoned with.

Except that this force lost by double digits. Go for Sherrod Brown, I could at least buy an argument for his brand of populism even if that isn't my sort of thing.

 
D:1989RBH ( 5260.3276 points)
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Tue, November 13, 2018 05:40:12 AM UTC0:00
The balancing process between trying to please heavily Dem urban areas and trying to please recently Dem suburban areas should be an interesting thing to witness too

I'll probably wait until around Iowa to figure out my personal preference for a candidate. Some are gonna be ranked higher than others, but the field thins a little bit between the first contests and Missouri.

 
D:1RP ( 5508.0200 points)
Tue, November 13, 2018 04:01:58 PM UTC0:00
WA Indy: Go for Sherrod Brown

Love Sherrod Brown, but it would be odd having a candidate/President who sounds like he smokes 6 packs of cigarettes a day.

 
I:9951E Pluribus Unum ( -405.4800 points)
Tue, November 13, 2018 07:54:28 PM UTC0:00
There are ones I'd prefer to Ojeda, but there aren't that many good candidates at the moment.

Currently out of the announced cadidates I rank them as such:

1. Andrew Yang
2. Richard Ojeda
3. Ryan Farber
4. Michael Arth
5. Harry Braun
6. Ken E. Nwadike Jr.
7. Jeff Boss
8. Willie Carter
9. Roque De La Fuente
10. John Delaney
11. Geoffrey Fieger
12. Robby Wells
13. Patrick Little

 
I:1038WA Indy ( 1772.5920 points)
Tue, November 13, 2018 08:03:22 PM UTC0:00
De La Fuente is up there?!

Don't take this the wrong way, but of those candidates that could conceivably win more than a dozen votes, who would you go for? Either D or R.

 
I:9951E Pluribus Unum ( -405.4800 points)
Tue, November 13, 2018 09:35:39 PM UTC0:00
These are all Democrats. De La Fuente's running in both major party primaries

 
I:1038WA Indy ( 1772.5920 points)
Tue, November 13, 2018 09:48:14 PM UTC0:00
Okay, but what about...someone who could be a viable dark horse, even? I guess Delaney might fit that list but the others...who even are they?

 
I:9951E Pluribus Unum ( -405.4800 points)
Tue, November 13, 2018 10:35:08 PM UTC0:00
First of all, I just rankex the Democrats that have filed to run as of 11/13/18. I really only like the top 3.

Secondly if you're curious here's short bios about them.

Ryan Farber is a progressive Milennial

Micheal Arth is an Author that ran for Governor of Florida in 2010 as an Independent

Harry Braun is a Perennial Presidential Candidate

Ken Nwadike is a Peace activist

Jeff Boss is a 9/11 Truther and Perennial Candidate

Willie Carter is a Perennial Presidential Candidate

Geoffry Fieger is a lawyer who ran for Governor of Michigan in 1998

Robby Wells is a guy who ran for president in 2012 under the Constitution Party and 2016 as an Independent

And Patrick Little is a Neo-Nazi who ran for Senator of California in 2018

 
I:9518Charlotte Rose ( 255.7746 points)
Tue, November 13, 2018 10:58:28 PM UTC0:00
I'm in the process of adding more candidates so you may want to hold off on that list.

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