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D:10124 | BLUEDOGS ( 68.1367 points)
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Tue, October 2, 2018 11:00:53 PM UTC0:00
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DeSantis is surging....
DeSantis is surgin'....
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D:1 | RP ( 5508.0200 points)
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Tue, October 2, 2018 11:33:38 PM UTC0:00
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Where's the green arrow showing that?
Where's the green arrow showing that?
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D:9362 | An_62190 ( 651.4650 points)
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Tue, October 2, 2018 11:45:02 PM UTC0:00
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He's probably looking at the margin and comparing it with other polls, which I may add is a really bad idea.
He's probably looking at the margin and comparing it with other polls, which I may add is a really bad idea.
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Awaiting the next polling survey that will put DeSantis ahead.
Awaitin' thuh next pollin' survey that will put DeSantis ahead.
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D:10124 | BLUEDOGS ( 68.1367 points)
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Wed, October 17, 2018 08:23:05 PM UTC0:00
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Feeling like the Bradley Effect is going to play a factor here because I'm betting people are lying to the pollsters.
Feelin' like thuh Bradley Effect is like, ya know, goin' to play a factor that chick. because I'm bettin' guys are lyin' to thuh pollsters.
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I:1038 | WA Indy ( 1772.5920 points)
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Wed, October 17, 2018 09:36:18 PM UTC0:00
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The Bradley Effect wasn’t a factor in Illinois in 2004, Massachusetts or Tennessee I’m 2006, Maryland I’m 2014, etc. I think these are realistic polling results.
The Bradley Effect wasn’t a factor in Illinois in 2004, Massachusetts or Tennessee I’m 2006, Maryland I’m 2014, etc. I think these are realistic polling results.
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I:1038 | WA Indy ( 1772.5920 points)
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Thu, October 18, 2018 12:44:19 AM UTC0:00
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Note: spellcheck when on your phone on this site.
Note: spellcheck when on your phone on this site.
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D:7918 | Labour Dem ( 231.0240 points)
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Thu, October 18, 2018 01:04:50 AM UTC0:00
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There has never really been a Bradley Effect. It's just a theory that always gets brought up whenever a black candidate is running in any race that isn't centered on a majority black area.
There has never really been a Bradley Effect. It's just a theory that always gets brought up whenever a black candidate is running in any race that isn't centered on a majority black area.
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D:1989 | RBH ( 5260.3276 points)
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Thu, October 18, 2018 05:47:42 AM UTC0:00
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also there's the whole thing with Obama carrying Florida twice to throw the whole Bradley Effect claim into some doubt
also there's the whole thing with Obama carrying Florida twice to throw the whole Bradley Effect claim into some doubt
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D:6086 | Jason (11913.3682 points)
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Thu, October 18, 2018 06:16:26 AM UTC0:00
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It most certainly existed and affected Bradley himself as well as Doug Wilder to an extent. But those days are long gone and 2008 should have dispelled any notion of the Bradley effect's lingering relevance.
It most certainly existed and affected Bradley himself as well as Doug Wilder to an extent. But those days are long gone and 2008 should have dispelled any notion of the Bradley effect's lingering relevance.
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D:391 | Qbanito ( 3055.9700 points)
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Fri, October 19, 2018 01:55:00 AM UTC0:00
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The energy in Gillum’s camp is something I’ve never seen in the prior Florida gubernatorial races. Hoping it turns into actual votes!
The energy in Gillum’s camp is something I’ve never seen in the prior Florida gubernatorial races. Hoping it turns into actual votes!
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D:1 | RP ( 5508.0200 points)
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Fri, October 19, 2018 05:34:32 PM UTC0:00
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You're an idiot.
You're an idiot.
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D:10124 | BLUEDOGS ( 68.1367 points)
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Fri, October 19, 2018 07:26:05 PM UTC0:00
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You know POTUS Trump will be holding a rally for DeSantis at some point.
You know POTUS Cheeto Dude will be holdin' a rally for DeSantis at some point.
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D:1 | RP ( 5508.0200 points)
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Fri, October 19, 2018 08:09:03 PM UTC0:00
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I guess Safe DeSantis then...
I guess Safe DeSantis then...
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D:10124 | BLUEDOGS ( 68.1367 points)
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Fri, October 19, 2018 11:21:51 PM UTC0:00
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RP: I do recall some of the pollsters thought Crist was going to win in 2014.... only to see Scott get reelected.
RP: I do recall some of thuh pollsters thought Crist was like wow! goin' to win in 2014.... only to see Scott get reelected.
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D:1 | RP ( 5508.0200 points)
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Sat, October 20, 2018 12:12:18 AM UTC0:00
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You really are incapable of seeing that all of these things you say can work both ways...
You really are incapable of seeing that all of these things you say can work both ways...
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D:10124 | BLUEDOGS ( 68.1367 points)
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Sat, October 20, 2018 12:50:15 AM UTC0:00
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Gubernatorial Debate this Sunday:
https://www.theledger.com/news/20181019/1st-debate-between-ron-desantis-and-andrew-gillum-this-sunday-in-tampa
Gubernatorial Debate this Sunday:
[Link]
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D:391 | Qbanito ( 3055.9700 points)
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Sun, October 21, 2018 07:16:33 PM UTC0:00
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Gillum up by 12, where’s that DeSantis surge?
Gillum up by 12, where’s that DeSantis surge?
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D:9642 | EastTexasDem ( 1194.2181 points)
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Sun, October 21, 2018 09:11:04 PM UTC0:00
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I still remember the narrative after the primaries was that Gillum was too liberal for the state. Not nearly enough people mentioned how DeSantis is very right-wing and strongly ties himself to Trump. In an environment where Democrats are favored and angry at Trump, that has not proven to be the best strategy, as Gillum has lead every poll of the race thus far.
I still remember the narrative after the primaries was that Gillum was too liberal for the state. Not nearly enough people mentioned how DeSantis is very right-wing and strongly ties himself to Trump. In an environment where Democrats are favored and angry at Trump, that has not proven to be the best strategy, as Gillum has lead every poll of the race thus far.
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R:7114 | Kyle ( 709.1907 points)
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Mon, October 22, 2018 12:26:13 AM UTC0:00
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Great point by EastTexasDem. Far-left vs. far right in a year where voters are leaning against the far right president isn't going to end well for DeSantis.
The only problem is if Democrats feel like candidates like Gillum are their path to victory in the future. The tables turn very quickly in politics.
Great point by EastTexasDem. Far-left vs. far right in a year where voters are leaning against the far right president isn't going to end well for DeSantis.
The only problem is if Democrats feel like candidates like Gillum are their path to victory in the future. The tables turn very quickly in politics.
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Joker:9757 | BrentinCO ( 7748.4790 points)
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Mon, October 22, 2018 12:58:47 AM UTC0:00
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I’m pretty sure Gillum wins at this point if he doesn’t screw up in a big way and there is no Florida version of an “October Suprise.”
DeSantis’s problem is he didn’t change the narrative after his screw up on election night, that defined him and he didn’t redefine himself in the coming weeks.
Good conservatives can still win in Florida. Republicans can complain about liberal mainstream media, but its still about controlling the message with voters. DeSantis has done a crappy job of that.
He’ll be an amazing DC Lobbyist come January.
I’m pretty sure Gillum wins at this point if he doesn’t screw up in a big way and there is no Florida version of an “October Suprise.”
DeSantis’s problem is he didn’t change the narrative after his screw up on election night, that defined him and he didn’t redefine himself in the coming weeks.
Good conservatives can still win in Florida. Republicans can complain about liberal mainstream media, but its still about controlling the message with voters. DeSantis has done a crappy job of that.
He’ll be an amazing DC Lobbyist come January.
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D:10124 | BLUEDOGS ( 68.1367 points)
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Mon, October 22, 2018 04:06:31 PM UTC0:00
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Brentin: I just don't trust that polling survey showing Gillum up by 12 percentage points.
Crazy things can happen in 2 weeks.
Brentin: I just don't trust that pollin' survey showin' Gillum up by 12 percentage points.
Crazy thin's can happen in 2 weeks.
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Joker:9757 | BrentinCO ( 7748.4790 points)
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Tue, October 23, 2018 12:53:12 AM UTC0:00
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Brentin: I just don't trust that polling survey showing Gillum up by 12 percentage points.
Crazy things can happen in 2 weeks.
I don’t believe its a 12 point race either. But I do beleive its a 3 or 4 point race and that Gillum will out-poll Nelson statewide.
I’ve been waiting to see if there is any October Surprise (like the FBI raid you have advanced) to change this race. But i don’t think it will happen.
The only question I have about Florida Polling is how much impact displaced panhandle voters who can’t vote will have on the race. Seems to me that in close races lost votes in the panhandle could determine these races. I don’t know if it hurts Republicans or Democrats more.
BLUEDOGS: Brentin: I just don't trust that polling survey showing Gillum up by 12 percentage points.
Crazy things can happen in 2 weeks.
I don’t believe its a 12 point race either. But I do beleive its a 3 or 4 point race and that Gillum will out-poll Nelson statewide.
I’ve been waiting to see if there is any October Surprise (like the FBI raid you have advanced) to change this race. But i don’t think it will happen.
The only question I have about Florida Polling is how much impact displaced panhandle voters who can’t vote will have on the race. Seems to me that in close races lost votes in the panhandle could determine these races. I don’t know if it hurts Republicans or Democrats more.
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D:10124 | BLUEDOGS ( 68.1367 points)
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Tue, October 23, 2018 04:40:38 PM UTC0:00
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Brentin: I'm thinking the FBI raids at Tallahassee City Hall could happen any moment now because the allegations of corruption are serious.
Brentin: I'm thinkin' thuh FBI raids at Tallahassee City Hall could happen any moment now because thuh allegations of corruption are serious.
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D:10124 | BLUEDOGS ( 68.1367 points)
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Tue, October 23, 2018 08:33:52 PM UTC0:00
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2nd Gubernatorial Debate tomorrow night at Broward College in Weston, FL:
https://www.c-span.org/video/?453499-1/florida-gubernatorial-debate
2nd Gubernatorial Debate tomorrow night at Broward College in Weston, oh, baby, FL:
[Link]
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