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I:6738 | IndyGeorgia ( 4590.4668 points)
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Mon, March 15, 2021 04:09:40 PM UTC0:00
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If a recall election takes place, how do California Democrats approach the replacement part of the recall process? You would want to have a Democrat run in the off chance Newsom is actually recalled, but Newsom wouldn't want someone too high profile to make voters think they might want the replacement over him. Newsom wants to frame this as a binary question (Recall or Not Recall).
If a recall election takes place, how do California Democrats approach the replacement part of the recall process? You would want to have a Democrat run in the off chance Newsom is actually recalled, but Newsom wouldn't want someone too high profile to make voters think they might want the replacement over him. Newsom wants to frame this as a binary question (Recall or Not Recall).
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R:7114 | Kyle ( 706.9630 points)
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Mon, March 15, 2021 04:32:58 PM UTC0:00
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If a recall election takes place, how do California Democrats approach the replacement part of the recall process? You would want to have a Democrat run in the off chance Newsom is actually recalled, but Newsom wouldn't want someone too high profile to make voters think they might want the replacement over him. Newsom wants to frame this as a binary question (Recall or Not Recall).
With the splintering of the GOP between Cox/Faulconer and probably Grenell, I would think that Democrats can strike the balance you speak of (running a decentcandidate who doesn't overshadow Newsom) without too much trouble.
But, like you said, Newsom framing this as a binary question is far and away the most important thing for Democrats. And, until I see a reputable poll to the contrary, I'd be stunned if it is not defeated overwhelmingly.
IndyGeorgia: If a recall election takes place, how do California Democrats approach the replacement part of the recall process? You would want to have a Democrat run in the off chance Newsom is actually recalled, but Newsom wouldn't want someone too high profile to make voters think they might want the replacement over him. Newsom wants to frame this as a binary question (Recall or Not Recall).
With the splintering of the GOP between Cox/Faulconer and probably Grenell, I would think that Democrats can strike the balance you speak of (running a decentcandidate who doesn't overshadow Newsom) without too much trouble.
But, like you said, Newsom framing this as a binary question is far and away the most important thing for Democrats. And, until I see a reputable poll to the contrary, I'd be stunned if it is not defeated overwhelmingly.
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I:6738 | IndyGeorgia ( 4590.4668 points)
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Mon, March 15, 2021 04:52:20 PM UTC0:00
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Does Newsom ask Kounalakis to run as a "Vote Newsom/Kounalakis" status quo ticket?
Does Newsom ask Kounalakis to run as a "Vote Newsom/Kounalakis" status quo ticket?
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D:1 | RP ( 5618.8218 points)
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Mon, March 15, 2021 05:16:47 PM UTC0:00
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If a recall election takes place, how do California Democrats approach the replacement part of the recall process?
"No on recall, yes on Bustamente."
IndyGeorgia: If a recall election takes place, how do California Democrats approach the replacement part of the recall process?
"No on recall, yes on Bustamente."
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I:9951 | E Pluribus Unum ( -228.6384 points)
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Mon, March 15, 2021 05:20:44 PM UTC0:00
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If a recall election takes place, how do California Democrats approach the replacement part of the recall process? You would want to have a Democrat run in the off chance Newsom is actually recalled, but Newsom wouldn't want someone too high profile to make voters think they might want the replacement over him. Newsom wants to frame this as a binary question (Recall or Not Recall).
Look no further than the Last Recall election. Dems will find 1 person to run "just in case", picking a Dem popular enough to hypothetically win but also not popular enough or in a position that u see it is just in a certain scenario. In the 2003 recall, dems wanted Dianne Feinstein to run as the Recall safeguard, but ended up going for their Lt Gov, running a who's slogan was literally "No on Recall, Yes on Bustamante". Though it backfired as voters thought he was a Republican anyways
IndyGeorgia: If a recall election takes place, how do California Democrats approach the replacement part of the recall process? You would want to have a Democrat run in the off chance Newsom is actually recalled, but Newsom wouldn't want someone too high profile to make voters think they might want the replacement over him. Newsom wants to frame this as a binary question (Recall or Not Recall).
Look no further than the Last Recall election. Dems will find 1 person to run "just in case", picking a Dem popular enough to hypothetically win but also not popular enough or in a position that u see it is just in a certain scenario. In the 2003 recall, dems wanted Dianne Feinstein to run as the Recall safeguard, but ended up going for their Lt Gov, running a who's slogan was literally "No on Recall, Yes on Bustamante". Though it backfired as voters thought he was a Republican anyways
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Joker:9757 | BrentinCO ( 9683.0742 points)
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Mon, March 15, 2021 07:22:42 PM UTC0:00
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Does Newsom ask Kounalakis to run as a "Vote Newsom/Kounalakis" status quo ticket?
Do people even know who Kounalakis is? Who is the most popular Democrat in California now. Maybe they should be the "Just in Case Dem"
IndyGeorgia: Does Newsom ask Kounalakis to run as a "Vote Newsom/Kounalakis" status quo ticket?
Do people even know who Kounalakis is? Who is the most popular Democrat in California now. Maybe they should be the "Just in Case Dem"
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D:7 | CA Pol Junkie ( 5444.7002 points)
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Mon, March 15, 2021 07:32:08 PM UTC0:00
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The recall law needs to be changed so that if the governor is recalled, the LG will become governor. The logical thing is to run the LG as the just in case candidate.
Do people even know who Kounalakis is?
I'd forgotten who the LG is.
The recall law needs to be changed so that if the governor is recalled, the LG will become governor. The logical thing is to run the LG as the just in case candidate.
BrentinCO: Do people even know who Kounalakis is?
I'd forgotten who the LG is.
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R:7114 | Kyle ( 706.9630 points)
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Mon, March 15, 2021 07:34:19 PM UTC0:00
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Do people even know who Kounalakis is? Who is the most popular Democrat in California now. Maybe they should be the "Just in Case Dem"
Run Nancy Pelosi or Kamala Harris just to really up the chance of national chaos and upheaval 😉
BrentinCO: Do people even know who Kounalakis is? Who is the most popular Democrat in California now. Maybe they should be the "Just in Case Dem"
Run Nancy Pelosi or Kamala Harris just to really up the chance of national chaos and upheaval 😉
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D:10973 | Patrick ( 6.5582 points)
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Tue, March 16, 2021 12:53:09 AM UTC0:00
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The recall law needs to be changed so that if the governor is recalled, the LG will become governor. The logical thing is to run the LG as the just in case candidate.
Or require a runoff, but it's not like CA Dems have had 20 years to fix any of this.
CA Pol Junkie: The recall law needs to be changed so that if the governor is recalled, the LG will become governor. The logical thing is to run the LG as the just in case candidate.
Or require a runoff, but it's not like CA Dems have had 20 years to fix any of this.
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BEER:10271 | WSNJ ( 478.4198 points)
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Thu, March 18, 2021 04:02:35 PM UTC0:00
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Ose enters the race
https://www.politico.com/states/california/story/2021/03/16/former-gop-congressman-ose-announces-california-recall-bid-1368483
Ose enters the race
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BEER:10271 | WSNJ ( 478.4198 points)
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Thu, March 18, 2021 04:03:21 PM UTC0:00
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This will be fun to watch even with a more than likely democrat win.
This will be fun to watch even with a more than likely democrat win.
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Joker:9757 | BrentinCO ( 9683.0742 points)
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Thu, March 18, 2021 06:09:28 PM UTC0:00
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Grenell Ose Cox and Falconer are going to split the Republican vote regionally and ideologically. I think they need to narrow down and decide who is the strongest. If a strong independent runs, they risk letting that person come in top 2 behind replacement Democrat.
Grenell Ose Cox and Falconer are going to split the Republican vote regionally and ideologically. I think they need to narrow down and decide who is the strongest. If a strong independent runs, they risk letting that person come in top 2 behind replacement Democrat.
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R:7114 | Kyle ( 706.9630 points)
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Thu, March 18, 2021 06:11:14 PM UTC0:00
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Grenell Ose Cox and Falconer are going to split the Republican vote regionally and ideologically. I think they need to narrow down and decide who is the strongest. If a strong independent runs, they risk letting that person come in top 2 behind replacement Democrat.
The fact that Falconer, who is the strongest statewide GOP nominee in over a decade, is facing any meaningful competition is a testament to the incompetence of the California GOP and the corrosive effects of Trump and the far-right.
BrentinCO: Grenell Ose Cox and Falconer are going to split the Republican vote regionally and ideologically. I think they need to narrow down and decide who is the strongest. If a strong independent runs, they risk letting that person come in top 2 behind replacement Democrat.
The fact that Falconer, who is the strongest statewide GOP nominee in over a decade, is facing any meaningful competition is a testament to the incompetence of the California GOP and the corrosive effects of Trump and the far-right.
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D:1989 | RBH ( 5686.1743 points)
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Sun, March 21, 2021 12:52:57 AM UTC0:00
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I'm guessing Gray Davis isn't eligible to be a recall replacement candidate since he was elected twice?
I'm guessing Gray Davis isn't eligible to be a recall replacement candidate since he was elected twice?
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Hmm...he was elected twice...but he still served less than six years. I'd have to check the actual law on that.
Hmm...he was elected twice...but he still served less than six years. I'd have to check the actual law on that.
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Cox definitely needs to drop out. He has somehow mistaken himself for a serious candidate in a year where the GOP might have an off-chance of potentially winning. Go run for Secretary of State for Montana, or whatever people like you do when the real candidates are engaged.
Cox definitely needs to drop out. He has somehow mistaken himself for a serious candidate in a year where the GOP might have an off-chance of potentially winning. Go run for Secretary of State for Montana, or whatever people like you do when the real candidates are engaged.
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D:7 | CA Pol Junkie ( 5444.7002 points)
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Mon, March 22, 2021 08:37:56 PM UTC0:00
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I'm guessing Gray Davis isn't eligible to be a recall replacement candidate since he was elected twice?
Being recalled includes a prohibition on serving in elected office in the future.
RBH: I'm guessing Gray Davis isn't eligible to be a recall replacement candidate since he was elected twice?
Being recalled includes a prohibition on serving in elected office in the future.
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Joker:9757 | BrentinCO ( 9683.0742 points)
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Mon, March 22, 2021 09:29:08 PM UTC0:00
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135 candidates were certified for the Gray Davis recall.
Looking forward to the 100s of joke candidates that make this race take 5 minutes to load. Although it is interesting to note that Larry Flynt, Gary Coleman and Mary Carey were "Top 10" finishers.
135 candidates were certified for the Gray Davis recall.
Looking forward to the 100s of joke candidates that make this race take 5 minutes to load. Although it is interesting to note that Larry Flynt, Gary Coleman and Mary Carey were "Top 10" finishers.
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Only the top four candidates broke one percent (#4 was Peter Camejo with 2.8 percent; #5 was Arianna Huffington with 0.5 percent).
Only the top four candidates broke one percent (#4 was Peter Camejo with 2.8 percent; #5 was Arianna Huffington with 0.5 percent).
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I:9951 | E Pluribus Unum ( -228.6384 points)
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Wed, March 24, 2021 03:50:31 PM UTC0:00
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Since this effectively both 2022 and the Recall page, Steyer offered himself as the Dem Safeguard
https://www.politico.com/amp/news/2021/03/23/steyer-newsom-recall-alternative-477735
Since this effectively both 2022 and the Recall page, Steyer offered himself as the Dem Safeguard
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Steyer offered himself as the Dem Safeguard
How noble of him... (eye roll)
E Pluribus Unum: Steyer offered himself as the Dem Safeguard
How noble of him... (eye roll)
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I:9951 | E Pluribus Unum ( -228.6384 points)
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Wed, March 24, 2021 07:21:17 PM UTC0:00
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CA Dems: "K we need a safeguard to stop a bogus recall, best option is a halfway notable politician that won't overshadow Newsom."
Steyer: "If I MUST..."
CA Dems: "Half way notable, not quarter way"
CA Dems: "K we need a safeguard to stop a bogus recall, best option is a halfway notable politician that won't overshadow Newsom."
Steyer: "If I MUST..."
CA Dems: "Half way notable, not quarter way"
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I:9951 | E Pluribus Unum ( -228.6384 points)
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Wed, March 24, 2021 09:53:55 PM UTC0:00
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Steyer is like the "cool billionaire kid" rebelling against old man Bloomberg
Steyer is like the "cool billionaire kid" rebelling against old man Bloomberg
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D:7 | CA Pol Junkie ( 5444.7002 points)
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Wed, March 24, 2021 11:22:27 PM UTC0:00
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is that only for statewide positions? because Josh Newman got recalled and then came back to win his seat back 2 years later
I remember people saying Davis was ineligible for future office, but I can't find confirmation of that. The relevant statute says,
(c) If the majority vote on the question is to recall, the officer is removed and, if there is a candidate, the candidate who receives a plurality is the successor. The officer may not be a candidate, nor shall there be any candidacy for an office filled pursuant to subdivision (d) of Section 16 of Article VI.
RBH: is that only for statewide positions? because Josh Newman got recalled and then came back to win his seat back 2 years later
I remember people saying Davis was ineligible for future office, but I can't find confirmation of that. The relevant statute says,
(c) If the majority vote on the question is to recall, the officer is removed and, if there is a candidate, the candidate who receives a plurality is the successor. The officer may not be a candidate, nor shall there be any candidacy for an office filled pursuant to subdivision (d) of Section 16 of Article VI.
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