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I love this song
I love this song
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LIB:6149 | Campari_007 ( 1501.1602 points)
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Wed, October 18, 2023 05:23:37 PM UTC0:00
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LOL and he lost a vote already.
LOL and he lost a vote already.
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D:1 | RP ( 5618.8218 points)
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Wed, October 18, 2023 05:38:32 PM UTC0:00
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Can we just skip to electing a GOP moderate with Dem support in exchange for the original spending targets agreed to by McCarthy, a vote on support for Ukraine and Israel and no motion to vacate based on a single member?
Can we just skip to electing a GOP moderate with Dem support in exchange for the original spending targets agreed to by McCarthy, a vote on support for Ukraine and Israel and no motion to vacate based on a single member?
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WmP:879 | Chronicler ( 84.4516 points)
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Wed, October 18, 2023 06:02:21 PM UTC0:00
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CNN says Jordan only received 199 on the second ballot.
CNN says Jordan only received 199 on the second ballot.
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D:1 | RP ( 5618.8218 points)
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Wed, October 18, 2023 06:57:05 PM UTC0:00
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Lol, a what? Does anyone not Freedom Caucus count as a GOP moderate now?
Pretty much. It's a relative thing to the rest of the caucus.
WA Indy: Lol, a what? Does anyone not Freedom Caucus count as a GOP moderate now?
Pretty much. It's a relative thing to the rest of the caucus.
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D:1 | RP ( 5618.8218 points)
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Wed, October 18, 2023 08:39:12 PM UTC0:00
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Speaker candidate Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) told moderate New York holdouts he would support doubling the state-and-local tax deduction cap to $20,000, according to California Republican Mike Garcia. - https://news.bloombergtax.com/daily-tax-report/jordan-negotiates-on-salt-in-attempt-to-win-over-ny-republicans
Speaker candidate Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) told moderate New York holdouts he would support doubling the state-and-local tax deduction cap to $20,000, according to California Republican Mike Garcia. - [Link]
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Joker:9757 | BrentinCO ( 9683.0742 points)
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Wed, October 18, 2023 10:41:47 PM UTC0:00
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FWIW From a CNN Reporter
https://twitter.com/MZanona/status/1714712263498620951
FWIW From a CNN Reporter
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D:1 | RP ( 5618.8218 points)
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Thu, October 19, 2023 01:43:37 AM UTC0:00
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Rep. Mariannette Miller-Meeks (R-IA), who voted for Rep. Jim Jordan (R-OH) for speaker yesterday, then against him today, said in a statement that she has received “credible death threats.” - https://politicalwire.com/2023/10/18/lawmaker-who-voted-against-jordan-got-death-threats/
Rep. Mariannette Miller-Meeks (R-IA), who voted for Rep. Jim Jordan (R-OH) for speaker yesterday, then against him today, said in a statement that she has received “credible death threats.” - [Link]
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Is it too late to resurrect Henry Clay and make him Speaker again?
Is it too late to resurrect Henry Clay and make him Speaker again?
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I:9665 | ThatAlabamaGuy ( 13.3250 points)
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Thu, October 19, 2023 02:39:39 AM UTC0:00
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No matter who the GOP puts up, it will never end in unity. Jordan might as well step aside now.
No matter who the GOP puts up, it will never end in unity. Jordan might as well step aside now.
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Joker:9757 | BrentinCO ( 9683.0742 points)
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Thu, October 19, 2023 03:57:57 AM UTC0:00
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Without a driver in the Republican Bus, Republican's are losing valuable time in trying to raise money to retain competitive seats. Its quite alarming that both candidate recruitment and fundraising is far behind where it should be in competitive and open seats.
Still time to catchup, but we are only 1 year away. While Republicans are fighting each other and plotting to challenge Republicans in safe seats, the competitive seats are cash starved and candidates starved in some cases. Two examples are CO-08 and PA-08. The dem incumbents are leading fundraising 10-1 in both these extremely competitive districts.
Love him or hate him, McCarthy was great at raising cash and getting it to candidates.
Without a driver in the Republican Bus, Republican's are losing valuable time in trying to raise money to retain competitive seats. Its quite alarming that both candidate recruitment and fundraising is far behind where it should be in competitive and open seats.
Still time to catchup, but we are only 1 year away. While Republicans are fighting each other and plotting to challenge Republicans in safe seats, the competitive seats are cash starved and candidates starved in some cases. Two examples are CO-08 and PA-08. The dem incumbents are leading fundraising 10-1 in both these extremely competitive districts.
Love him or hate him, McCarthy was great at raising cash and getting it to candidates.
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It's fun watching the Whigs...er uh....Republicans implode.
It's fun watching the Whigs...er uh....Republicans implode.
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W:11230 | Arthur ( 520.6107 points)
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Thu, October 19, 2023 04:41:32 PM UTC0:00
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https://twitter.com/JakeSherman/status/1715021061463367762
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D:1 | RP ( 5618.8218 points)
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Thu, October 19, 2023 05:09:00 PM UTC0:00
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Looks like they are going forward with empowering McHenry as Speaker Pro Tem, but there's opposition:
https://twitter.com/bresreports/status/1715030474635071841
Looks like they are going forward with empowering McHenry as Speaker Pro Tem, but there's opposition:
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Joker:9757 | BrentinCO ( 9683.0742 points)
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Thu, October 19, 2023 05:55:33 PM UTC0:00
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If you are a conservative who opposed McCarthy and McHenry becomes acting Speaker or empowered as Speaker - than nothing was accomplished in removing McCarthy. In fact, if Democrats are the ones that give McHenry the votes for victory, all that was accomplished is giving a McCarthy ally and someone who is beholden to Democrats the leadership of the House of Representatives.
If you are a conservative who opposed McCarthy and McHenry becomes acting Speaker or empowered as Speaker - than nothing was accomplished in removing McCarthy. In fact, if Democrats are the ones that give McHenry the votes for victory, all that was accomplished is giving a McCarthy ally and someone who is beholden to Democrats the leadership of the House of Representatives.
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WASH:8766 | Pennsylvanian ( 401.2364 points)
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Thu, October 19, 2023 06:48:51 PM UTC0:00
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Love him or hate him, McCarthy was great at raising cash and getting it to candidates.
Which is why McCarthy had the good will within the conference to go 15 marathon ballots. Contrast with Jim Jordan's empty threats and feigned bombast. Here's a guy who likes to make a living tossing Molotov cocktails through open windows and little else and thinks that's enough to render him a power-dealing big shot. But, armed with the fact that a veritable man-child such as Matt Gaetz can spike the ball over the fence and cause all this just for the hell of it, who can blame him?
BrentinCO: Love him or hate him, McCarthy was great at raising cash and getting it to candidates.
Which is why McCarthy had the good will within the conference to go 15 marathon ballots. Contrast with Jim Jordan's empty threats and feigned bombast. Here's a guy who likes to make a living tossing Molotov cocktails through open windows and little else and thinks that's enough to render him a power-dealing big shot. But, armed with the fact that a veritable man-child such as Matt Gaetz can spike the ball over the fence and cause all this just for the hell of it, who can blame him?
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D:1 | RP ( 5618.8218 points)
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Fri, October 20, 2023 04:21:23 PM UTC0:00
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More defections away from Jordan with this vote.
More defections away from Jordan with this vote.
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D:1 | RP ( 5618.8218 points)
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Fri, October 20, 2023 05:06:15 PM UTC0:00
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They are now trying to oust McHenry as temporary speaker. What a clown show.
https://twitter.com/FarnoushAmiri/status/1715392592227991561
They are now trying to oust McHenry as temporary speaker. What a clown show.
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Joker:9757 | BrentinCO ( 9683.0742 points)
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Fri, October 20, 2023 05:11:53 PM UTC0:00
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JORDAN -- 194
JEFFRIES -- 210
MCHENRY -- 6
DONALDS -- 2
EMMER -- 1
ZELDIN -- 4
SCALISE -- 8
GARCIA -- 1
MCCARTHY -- 2
WESTERMAN -- 1
JORDAN -- 194
JEFFRIES -- 210
MCHENRY -- 6
DONALDS -- 2
EMMER -- 1
ZELDIN -- 4
SCALISE -- 8
GARCIA -- 1
MCCARTHY -- 2
WESTERMAN -- 1
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D:10973 | Patrick ( 6.5582 points)
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Fri, October 20, 2023 06:16:24 PM UTC0:00
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When does Gaetz start getting votes
When does Gaetz start getting votes
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D:1 | RP ( 5618.8218 points)
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Fri, October 20, 2023 07:40:14 PM UTC0:00
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When does Gaetz start getting votes
When it's about his expulsion.
Patrick: When does Gaetz start getting votes
When it's about his expulsion.
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LIB:6149 | Campari_007 ( 1501.1602 points)
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Sun, October 22, 2023 05:31:35 PM UTC0:00
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A Question here. Should we allow people to change predictions on this because I don't think anyone foresaw Jordan withdrawing?
A Question here. Should we allow people to change predictions on this because I don't think anyone foresaw Jordan withdrawing?
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D:1 | RP ( 5618.8218 points)
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Mon, October 23, 2023 02:13:02 PM UTC0:00
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A Question here. Should we allow people to change predictions on this because I don't think anyone foresaw Jordan withdrawing?
Well, it depends on what this Race is supposed to represent. If it's the vote that already occurred with Jordan running, then no - and either Jeffries "won" or no one did.
If it's whoever eventually actually wins the Speakership, then that Race hasn't happened yet and the dates are incorrect. Adjusting the dates will allow changing predictions.
Campari_007: A Question here. Should we allow people to change predictions on this because I don't think anyone foresaw Jordan withdrawing?
Well, it depends on what this Race is supposed to represent. If it's the vote that already occurred with Jordan running, then no - and either Jeffries "won" or no one did.
If it's whoever eventually actually wins the Speakership, then that Race hasn't happened yet and the dates are incorrect. Adjusting the dates will allow changing predictions.
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Joker:9757 | BrentinCO ( 9683.0742 points)
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Mon, October 23, 2023 04:22:29 PM UTC0:00
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My two cents, we record the three votes for Jordan and close the race with no winner.
And then open a new race for whoever is selected the R nominee for whenever that voting begins.
I think we have history recorded correctly in the other races. McCarthy was removed. Scalise was nominated and withdrew. And now with Jordan his nomination failed after three votes and his Party voted to reject his nomination.
Anyway....maybe we put it up to a vote.
My two cents, we record the three votes for Jordan and close the race with no winner.
And then open a new race for whoever is selected the R nominee for whenever that voting begins.
I think we have history recorded correctly in the other races. McCarthy was removed. Scalise was nominated and withdrew. And now with Jordan his nomination failed after three votes and his Party voted to reject his nomination.
Anyway....maybe we put it up to a vote.
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